Social Benefits of Education

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:14 pm

Thus is what I was taught in school. The same system so many people favor right now. Don't like it, then bitch at the school system, which many still don't get are vastly different from city to city or neighborhood to neighborhood.

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ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:05 am

Shadzar, you're retarded. Your school != All schools.

PS- Using EOF as a crude mockery of QED is also retarded. End of file means that somewhere your program failed to have any more input. QED is stating that the argument has been explained to the point where it can no longer be disputed. Completely fucking different things.

Seriously, "I can't think of anything else to ramble" is totally different from "And if you didn't get it from that explanation then you're retarded."

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:24 am

ubernoob wrote:Shadzar, you're retarded. [/b]Your[/b] school ≠ All schools.

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:27 am

Crissa wrote:
ubernoob wrote:Shadzar, you're retarded. [/b]Your[/b] school ≠ All schools.

!= is a perfectly valid use of java...

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:57 am

The python scripter in me says to go with != too.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:28 am

I've found

Code: Select all

/=

and

Code: Select all

~=

to be pretty popular too. But what exactly is the point?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:51 am

CatharzGodfoot wrote:I've found
Code: Select all
/=
and
Code: Select all
~=
to be pretty popular too. But what exactly is the point?

The boolean expression for "not equal to" has a subjectively more hard and clear feeling than simply saying "that's not true" is my guess.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:39 am

~= is, in my books, more or less equal to.
/= would, I suppose, follow the += and -= pattern: it's a command, not a... thing. Saying x += 7 is telling the computer to add 7 to x (it's quicker than "x = x+7"). x -= 3 tells the computer to subtract 3 from x. And I suppose x /= 4 would tell it to divide x by 4.

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:55 am

(!Competent_People){RTFM}

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:57 am

...The point was that he was using 'you are' incorrectly.

I just natively use the extended character represented by ¬. I guess it detracted from the point. It's just alt+= on my keyboard.

-Crissa

Draco_Argentum · Post by **Draco_Argentum** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:40 am

I'd accept -eq but thats the Powershell talking.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:42 am

shadzar wrote:Psychology is a joke science, and shouldn't be taught to anyone. There are plenty of quacks in medicine, you don't need people playing mind games with people also.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's a joke science.

ubernoob wrote:
Crissa wrote:
ubernoob wrote:Shadzar, you're retarded. [/b]Your[/b] school ≠ All schools.
!= is a perfectly valid use of java...

!= is used in pretty much any C-based language.

Murtak · Post by **Murtak** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:19 pm

Koumei wrote:/= would, I suppose, follow the += and -= pattern: it's a command, not a... thing.

Assertion?

mean_liar · Post by **mean_liar** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:52 pm

MAKE IT STOP.

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Count Arioch the 28th · Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:09 pm

Ah, so now Shadzar is saying that the study of human behavior and how the brain works is a "joke science". Yeah, I don't actually think Shadzar knows anything that is of relevance to me.

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:46 pm

shadzar wrote:Thus is what I was taught in school. The same system so many people favor right now.

I think it has been made several times now, but one more can't hurt. No one here is saying that the current system is the one that we favor. Heck, I can rant about the current system for hours, days, weeks even. We are all in agreement that you want to jump from the frying pan into the fire.

shadzar wrote:Psychology is a joke science, and shouldn't be taught to anyone.

Seriously, you were taught that in school? Somehow I seriously doubt that.

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:30 pm

tzor wrote:
shadzar wrote:Psychology is a joke science, and shouldn't be taught to anyone.
Seriously, you were taught that in school? Somehow I seriously doubt that.

It was part of a now defunct program to get rid of the first year of college for a 4 year degree. You also got exempted from English class as well as a few others so you could get directly to your course material.

WTF psych is needed for for database maintenance and repair, I will never fucking know! An ASA-400 doesn't answer queries about how it "feels", only about its tables. and such.

Quantumboost · Post by **Quantumboost** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:32 pm

shadzar wrote:WTF psych is needed for for database maintenance and repair, I will never fucking know! An ASA-400 doesn't answer queries about how it "feels", only about its tables. and such.

So... you don't interact with people at all during your work.

Can't say that's surprising.

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:49 pm

Yes a cluster fuck is what is needed when working with small parts in repairing a computer, and as everyone knows 6~8 people work well together on a single keyboard in front of a terminal.

Anybody retarded enough to not know how to get along with people they are around on a daily basis, needs to bitch slap their parents, because that was there job, not the schools. It takes no money, and little time, and something they HAVE to do anyway.

I don't interact with people for the most time, because I don't like Green Acres rejects. I don't want to hear about or see their ugly kids. I don't give a fuck about their family. I don't care who they are fucking. I just cannot stand people that ramble on talking and have no point other than to talk, and I don't give a shit about small talk beyond Hi and Bye. If you going to waste my time, then you better damn well fucking have something important to say. You got a pain in your arm, go see a doctor. You got a problem with your kid, go talk to them. There isn't anything I can do for you for that shit. Learn to do things for yourself.

Remember the adage: Silence is golden.

The only time I need to talk to someone when working is when building a website for someone. I have to have them tell me what they are wanting it to look like because I am not a mind reader. But after I have the information, get the hell out of my way so I can get the work done, then move on to the next task.

violence in the media · Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:57 pm

shadzar wrote: I don't interact with people for the most time....

I used to think you were a jerk, but I'm forced to reconsider as this is probably the nicest thing I've seen you claim to do for people. Bravo!

Count Arioch the 28th · Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:13 pm

Yes, Shadzar. The only thing that matters is work. Anything else is a waste of time. If you're not working, you need to be staring at a wall trying not to think or interact with anyone until it's time to work again.

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:24 pm

No, having to deal with retards AT work will cost someone extra. I don't get paid for dealing with retards, so I don't.

Quantumboost · Post by **Quantumboost** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:32 pm

shadzar wrote:Yes a cluster fuck is what is needed when working with small parts in repairing a computer, and as everyone knows 6~8 people work well together on a single keyboard in front of a terminal.

Anybody retarded enough to not know how to get along with people they are around on a daily basis, needs to bitch slap their parents, because that was there job, not the schools. It takes no money, and little time, and something they HAVE to do anyway.

...fuck you. There are people with genuine diagnosable neurological conditions that are genuinely innately bad at social interaction and are genuinely not retarded. Psychology's an intellectual, scientific look at how people think and interact with each other, and that's sometimes the best and perhaps only way for some people to really understand social interaction.

If you seriously think that the treatment of every person with an Autism Spectrum Disorder sould be "leave 'em to rot and blame their parents for everything" then you are a genuinely horrible person and horrible at being a person.

And I wasn't talking about "being in a room with 6-8 people", I was talking about "having a boss or coworkers or customers of any sort at all". Seriously, to hear you say it, you're in like the 99th percentile of "not interacting with people". You don't get to fucking say that's not a useful skill just because you happen to be one of the most antisocial people I've had the displeasure to interact with. And this is coming from a compiler developer with an ASD.

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:55 pm

^^I use retarded as its intended manner, not to say someone is disabled. Retarded as in slow in general, people that should know better but don't think before they act.

I am not talking about people with Down's, or OCD, etc.

There is no interacting with people when working. Boss/customer knows this up front with me. I work when working not play. So unless the building or my ass is on fire; stay out of my way to work.

Like if those pilots had been paying attention to their work they wouldn't have flown 150 miles past Minneapolis. But instead they were fucking around with other shit and too busy the fly the damn plane.

Maybe you would like to be on the next one that does that, and they just decide to chat and shit when they should be focusing on landing? Maybe during some surgery your doctor could get talking about a Sudoku puzzle instead of paying attention to putting you back together?

So fuck yourself, if you want people to be that inattentive to what they are doing. Remember that plumber coming to fix your pipes gets paid by the hour, so you want them to chat instead of work right? I mean it is only costing you $75 per hour for them to be there, so it doesn't matter to you if they are working or chatting right? And we all know plumbers ONLY chat about the work they are doing right?

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:34 pm

shadzar wrote:So fuck yourself, if you want people to be that inattentive to what they are doing. Remember that plumber coming to fix your pipes gets paid by the hour, so you want them to chat instead of work right? I mean it is only costing you $75 per hour for them to be there, so it doesn't matter to you if they are working or chatting right? And we all know plumbers ONLY chat about the work they are doing right?

You're missing an option: when the plumber goes home at the end of fixing someone's sink, is it preferable for them to be a cannibalistic couch potato, munching potato chips and parked in front of the TV, or do you want them to actually be interested in something - be it volunteering, taking a child outside to play, expanding their knowledge base into business management so they can own their plumbing business, gardening, checking out bibliographies at the library, etc?

I may not ever know what the plumber likes to do outside of work because their focus is on their work, but as a voter in a democratic society, I know I'd rather imagine that plumber doing something other than just plumbing, eating, and sleeping.